President Obama and President Alvaro Uribe Velez of Colombia speak about the relationship between the US and Colombia
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Monday, June 29, 2009 4:56 PM
SPEAKERS: PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
PRESIDENT ALVARO URIBE VELEZ OF COLOMBIA
[*] OBAMA: Well, I am very pleased to have President Uribe here today with his delegation from Colombia. The relationship between the United States and Colombia has been extremely strong. We've had great cooperation on a whole range of issues, and President Uribe's administration I think has under very difficult circumstances performed admirably on a whole range of fronts.
On security, on reducing the influence of the drug cartels, in improving the economic situation for his people and stabilizing the country, he has performed with diligence and courage.
And so we are grateful for his friendship, and I'm glad that he was able to come and visit us here today.
In our discussions we talked about a range of issues. We've discussed most prominently the interests of both countries in moving forward on a free trade agreement. This is something that has been discussed for quite some time.
I have instructed Ambassador Kirk, our United States trade representative, to begin working closely with President Uribe's team on how we cn proceed on a free trade agreement.
There are obvious difficulties involved in the process, and there remains work to do. But I'm confident that ultimately we can strike a deal that is good for the people of Colombia and good for the people of the United States.
I commended President Uribe on the progress that has been made in human rights in Colombia and dealing with the killings of labor leaders there. And obviously we've seen a downward trajectory in the -- the deaths of labor unions, and we've seen improvements when it comes to prosecution of those who are carrying out these blatant human rights offenses.
President Uribe acknowledges that there remains more work to be done, and we look forward to cooperating with him to continue to improve both the rights of organized labors in Colombia and to protect both labor and civil rights leaders there.
OBAMA: Along those same lines, we obviously think that the steps that have already been made on issues like extrajudicial killings and illegal surveillance, that it is important that Colombia pursue a path of rule of law and transparency. And I know that that is something that President Uribe is committed to doing.
We spoke about the regional challenges. The drug trafficking that has been such a cancer in the life of Colombia affects the region as a whole. When I last met with President Calderon of Mexico, he indicated the extraordinary challenges that that country is facing.
Mexico and Colombia are not alone in this. Throughout the region in Central and South America, we are seeing this problem. It's important that the United States steps up and cooperates effectively in battling the adverse effects of drug trafficking. And that includes, by the way, the United States reducing demand for drugs. We have responsibilities.
We have responsibilities to reduce the trafficking of guns into the south that help strengthen these cartels, and the flows of money and money laundering that at times involves not just the south -- Southern Hemisphere, but also the Northern Hemisphere.
And so, looking for additional ways that we could cooperate on those issues is very important.
Finally, we spoke about the fact that our relationship is much broader than simply our common enemy in the drug traffickers. We want a proactive, positive agenda for human development throughout the region and inside Colombia.
And so, exploring ways that we can advance clean energy cooperation, how we can advance efforts to improve child nutrition, reduce infant mortality, expand health care to ordinary people, that is part of what I think President Uribe's comprehensive vision is, that you don't just use military tools to defeat the enemies of progress, but you use a comprehensive approach that includes improvements in rule of law and improvements in people's day-to-day well-being and their opportunities for economic advancement as very powerful weapons to restore order and to ensure that people feel competent (ph) in the future.
And so, we want to be a partner with Colombia on these issues.
I'm grateful, again, for President Uribe's friendship. And I'm confident that we are going to be working diligently in the future to advance the interests of both countries.
So thank you very much for joining us.
OBAMA: Hold on one second. You know, I just realized there may be Spanish press here, and that was a long statement. But if you don't mind, I'm going to go ahead and have that translated just so that people can get it.
I'm sorry. I should have slowed down. I forgot.
TRANSLATOR: (SPEAKING IN SPANISH)
OBAMA: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on one second.
TRANSLATOR: (SPEAKING IN SPANISH)
URIBE: President Obama, I want to express our gratitude again to you, to your cabinet and to the United States.
Colombia, in this alliance with the United States, has received a great gift (ph). For us, to confront the challenges, our people have suffered for a long, long time. I have said to President Obama that Colombia seems down (ph) (inaudible) in the last century, has not met one single day in complete peace. The help of your government is very important for the whole of the new generations of Colombians.
Thank you, President Obama. We have had the opportunity to speak about many topics, as President Obama has said. I said to President Obama -- I made to him some comments about confidence in Colombia, about security, the advances, the problems we still face about investments, future relationship with free-trade agreement as a signal to give confidence in Colombia and our social cohesiveness.
The advances in communication, in micro-lending, in health -- the problems we still face -- problems in poverty, in income distribution. And in the case of human rights, Colombia has a rule of law in the utmost expression of public opinion participation. We -- I am the first with the you in support of our armed forces. But for that reason, of their honor, every soldier, every policeman in Colombia understands that we need credibility for this policy of democratic security.
And credibility depends on effectiveness and on transparency, and transparency is a question of human rights. Therefore, we are open. We are very receptive to receive any advice, any suggestions, on how we are going to fulfill our goal of civil -- civil (ph) violations of human rights in Colombia; about surveillance (ph). I have said to President Obama that during our administration, we have restructured 427 state agencies. And we are in the process to restructure the state agencies for surveillance.
We hope to issue these decrees in the coming three weeks. And we hope that we can solve them -- and them problems of these institutions -- of these institutions for good. I have said to President Obama about the importance of the help of the United States for us and the region as a whole, to advance in social cohesion -- help directly from the United States, or through their multilateral banks.
For instance, in education and in child nutrition, we have advanced a lot, but we lack infrastructure, coverage (ph) (inaudible) infrastructure. In child nutrition, we have advanced a lot. But we lack coverage in education for those under six, not to mention all our other problems. But we have recognition to advance in security, human rights, a state restructure, to advance in economics, to advance in social cohesion.
And for all these things, it is very important to have the (inaudible) support of President Obama, of the government of the United States, of the Congress of the United States.
My gratitude again, President Obama. And we are waiting for you in Colombia.
OBAMA: Thank you.
OBAMA: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We're going to -- we only have time for two questions. I'm going to call on a -- a U.S. reporter.
And then, President Uribe, you can make a decision on which one of the Colombian reporters you want to call on.
So Doug (inaudible) of Reuters.
OBAMA: Hold on, please.
QUESTION: You talked about the FTA. You also talked about some of the -- some of the obstacles to (inaudible). I wonder, do you have a sense of how close Colombia is to where it needs to be in order to you to send the agreement to Congress? Is that something that could be accomplished this year? And then I also wonder if you could comment on the -- on the coup in Honduras and what (inaudible) steps the U.S. might be considering there.
OBAMA: Well, let me, first of all, speak about the coup in Honduras, because this was a topic of conversation between myself and President Uribe.
All of us have great concerns about what's taken place there. President Zelaya was democratically elected. He had not yet completed his term. We believe that the coup was not legal and that President Zelaya remains the president of Honduras, the democratically elected president there. In that, we have joined all the countries in the region, including Colombia and the Organization of American States.
I think it's -- it would be a terrible precedent if we start moving backwards into the era in which we are seeing military coups as a means of political transition, rather than democratic elections.
The region has made enormous progress over the last 20 years in establishing democratic traditions in Central America and Latin America.
We don't want to go back to a dark past. The United States has not always stood as it should with some of these fledgling democracies. But over the last several years, I think both Republicans and Democrats in the United States have recognized that we always want to stand with democracy, even if the results don't always mean that the leaders of those countries are favorable toward the United States. And that is a tradition that we want to continue.
So we are very clear about the fact that President Zelaya is the democratically elected president. And we will work with the regional organizations, like OAS, and with other international institutions to see if we can resolve this in a peaceful way.
With respect to the free trade agreement, obviously a lot of work has already been done on the free trade agreement, and we are hopeful that we can -- we can move forward to completion.
I don't have a strict timetable, because I'm going to have to consult with Congress, obviously, on this issue. We've got a lot on our plates, if you haven't noticed.
And I think that the burden is not simply on Colombia. I think Colombia has done a lot of excellent work. It is a matter of getting both countries to a place where their legislatures can feel confident that it will be ultimately to the economic benefit of these countries.
I have noted a special concern that is bipartisan and shared both both by this administration and Congress that the human rights issues in Colombia get resolved.
President Uribe has assured me that he is interested in resolving those issues.
And, as I said, great progress has been made. I trust that we can make more progress. And I think that will help shape the overall environment in which this -- this issue is being debated in Congress.
QUESTION (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): (inaudible) had wanted to be re- elected president, (inaudible) or you haven't decided yet? Are you worried about what your election (inaudible)? Do you have a message to present?
OBAMA: Well, first of all, I think it's very important that in all these countries it's not for the United States to make these decisions, it's for the people of these countries to make these decisions.
And, you know, one of the clear policies that we want to put forward is that we stand on the side of democracy, sovereignty and self-determination.
We know that our experience in the United States is that two terms works for us and that after eight years usually the American people want a change.
You know, I related to President Uribe the fact that our most revered president, or at least one of our two most revered presidents, George Washington, part of what made him so great was not just being the founder of our country, but also the fact that at a time when he could have stayed president for life, he made a decision that after service he was able to step aside and return to civilian life. And that set a precedent then for the future.
But as I said, each country, I think, has to make these decisions on their own. And I think what's ultimately most important is that the people feel a sense of legitimacy and ownership, and that this is not something imposed on them from the top, that it's not -- does not involve manipulations of the electorate or, you know, rigging of the electoral process or repression of opposition voices, but that whatever is determined is done in an open, transparent way so that people feel confident that whoever's in power represents their voices and their interests.
URIBE: No, let me -- let me...
OBAMA: He just wants a picture.
URIBE: No, but let me -- let me make some comments about -- about this question.
I brought to the table some topics that I call topics of internal debate in Colombia at this (inaudible). One of the topics I brought to talk about it with President Obama (inaudible). And I want to summarize. I said to President Obama first I am concerned because I am a member of one generation.
But there are four or five generations that have not lived one single day in peace in Colombia, or prosperity.
Therefore, I consider that Colombia needs to extend (inaudible) of security, democratic balance, investment, social responsibility and social cohesiveness, with a judgment. I don't believe in extermination (ph), and I don't believe in (inaudible) changes. I believe in one government, in one issue (ph), with (inaudible), with daily adjustments.
And I have said, in the second point of this comment, that I consider that this is (inaudible) necessary to extend these policies. It is not convenient to perpetuate the present. And I have said to President Obama what I want to say to you, Colombia is a country of solid democratic institutions. When we think about the institutions, we cannot speak in asterisks (ph) about the institutions. We have to speak about the institutions in concrete terms.
We have 1,102 mayors directly elected by the people, 32 governors. The regions (ph) in Colombia invest 51 percent of the public expenses. My government has built governance with all the regional governors and mayors, regardless of their political allegiance. And they have many, many political allegiances.
The justice administration is independent in Colombia. Colombia has solid free press. Colombia has bodies -- independent bodies -- for control (ph). Colombia is a country with very solid institutions.
I beg you journalists to separate the convenience or inconvenience of perpetuating the president with the qualification of our institutions. Anyway, our democratic institutions are totally solid.
OBAMA: Well, and the other thing I should say is that if I were to serve two terms, I'm fairly confident that I would not have the 70 percent approval rating that President Uribe has.